Re: Chandas: another problem!

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hello!

This is continuation of the discussion. Double angles are mine (>>)!


> >In sanskrit chandas, it's always taken as guru (even in non-samaasas).
> >I didn't find an instance like 'sahajamagu prEma' where laghuvu is taken.
> >(is there any?) But in telugu, we take laghuvu. So, depending on whether
> >the words are of sanskrit or telugu, may be we can fix guru or laghu.

That's my hypothesis only, I said. (It is safe if this tage is maintained i feel!)

> One or two things. In telugu what we have is only Sanskrit words 
> or samaasas. In 
> 
> kavipravaruDu (a single word, meaning kavulalO pravaruDu) - vi is guruvu.
> 
> In  kavi pravaruDu (a sentence, meaning kavi is pravara) - vi is laghuvu.
> 
> The nonsammasa situation in Sanskrit will be totally different because 
> the sentence construction is different.
>> In sanskrit samAsaas they are taken as guruvu. When we adopt a sanskrit
>> word and telugize it, isn't it an ambiguous situation? (Just another thought.
>> If there are 'sankara' ie hybrid padAlu?)
> 
> Once telugized, it is not Sanskrit anymore. So it is still unambiguous
> like the example above. 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Sridhara Rao

Well! There ARE tricky situations. here is one (my creation)!
See this tETagIti. 

"E kavi pravarunDanu EdO cEya
 anni vargamu lEnduku tannu konuTa?"
 konni vEragu kEsulu unna vOyi.
 icaTa 'vi' guruvO, laghuvO eddi younu? 

I may mean "edO kavi pravaruDu anE padam mundu aksharAnni laghuvO, guruvO
cEsADani manamantA pOrADaDam enduku?"  With this interpretation, kavi and
pravaruDu are different words and 'vi' is laghuvu. So the poem violates 
chandas of gIti.

But, what if I say it can be read as 
      "Eka vipra varuni Edo cEya" 
meaning, "oka brAhmADiki eDO cEsArani, anni vargAlu koTTu kODam enduku?" in 
a totally different context. So, 'vi' becomes guru here and the poem, a valid
gIti?

So, depending on *meaning* and *context*, a single word CAN become both
guru and laghu! Hard and fast rules (samyukta, samaasa, rEpha do not 
include such situations). This is essentially, exploring the hidden
freedom in the rules!


Please do not link this message with caste issues! :-)

regards,
vari

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